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Thursday, August 26, 2004

Thomas Register debuts another site for engineers to ignore

Excuse me...they are ThomasNet now, abbreviated TNI. They have used the old adage about the more failures, the more likely a success. They've improved a lot, but some core issues still hobble their service. See their press release about why this site is so great (it reads like a VerticalNet promo from 1999).

ThomasNet.com emulates Yahoo in that there is a search block, but also categories. At their seminar, it was explained that the categories are there to help people who aren't sure what to call what they are searching for. Also ala Yahoo, their is an animated ad overlay for a Orange County Choppers giveaway.

The giveaway is an interesting idea in that you need to roll over six hot-spots and read about the motorcycle and how it metaphorically relates to ThomasNet. The hot-spots include a link to a demo page to show how that feature works. An interesting idea in getting a visitor to learn how to use their site.

The site's search is supposed to integrate both their Register and Regional databases, although it isn't apparent to the user. You do get a list of states and the number of suppliers along the left side of your SERP (search engine results page). You can use this list to drill down, as well as categories like: manufacturer, distributor, or service companies.

Lets cut to the chase--how are the search results? Mediocre. Why? For all the work on the website, they haven't invested time in improving their database. Problems include:
  • Rankings are driven by money paid, lowering accuracy of the results.
  • Results to your search are different than using their categories.
  • You have to spend more time reading descriptions of companies as submitted to TNI, rather than edited results from their website like real search engines.
  • There are too many similar categories and not enough of the right ones to drill-down.
(Another symptom is that their contact info for my company listed our address from about three years ago.)

At the top of the page, just before the results, is a list of 'related directory categories'. I clicked on these to try to get better results, which was somewhat effective. Compare a search for temperature controller versus a category result for controls: temperature. Just for fun, try the same search on Google.

Google gives the best information scent, and that's why ThomasNet is not going to win on specialized search with this iteration of their website. My prediction is that engineers will continue to rely on Google. Anyone feel differently?

13 Comments:

  • At September 02, 2004 12:12 AM, Anonymous said…

    I thought the results were amazing on ThomasNet. I found my company and all it's competitor's in a second unlike in google where I just get yellow pages, #rd party marketers and the like.

     
  • At September 03, 2004 8:51 PM, Anonymous said…

    RE: Another symptom is that their contact info for my company listed our address from about three years ago.

    Did you notice that under your company's info ThomasNet says "Send ThomasNet your feedback. If you have different information about this company or were unable to contact them let us know." I did and they updated our info.

    Also when you searches for "temperature controller" did you click on the Web Results? I think they must be using Google.

     
  • At September 05, 2004 8:18 AM, Anonymous said…

    Thomas net TR, Regional? it's all the same $#!*, I find that Google is hit or miss, I found this specseach thing on design new's website, last week, it was pretty hot, I could find what I needed based on just that what I needed: a progressive cavity pump with a flow about 5 gpm's a half inch in take and a output.

    It was really good

     
  • At September 05, 2004 8:18 AM, Anonymous said…

    Thomas net TR, Regional? it's all the same $#!*, I find that Google is hit or miss, I found this specseach thing on design new's website, last week, it was pretty hot, I could find what I needed based on just that what I needed: a progressive cavity pump with a flow about 5 gpm's a half inch in take and a output.

    It was really good

     
  • At September 14, 2004 5:22 PM, Anonymous said…

    I think the new search engine is nice, but I'll still maintain that the number of people using it are very limited in comparison to Google and Yahoo. Certainly, many of our clients run very big TR campaigns and the best gets 7% of their leads form the TR. The ROI is pathetic in comparison to PPC and not even close to SEO efforts.

    I think the TR will continue to improve, but the costs of ranking points still seems insane compared to PPC bids for most of our clients.

     
  • At September 17, 2004 5:07 PM, Anonymous said…

    That spec search thing from design news that anonymous 8:18 refers to is Globalspec --- www.globalspec.com. Take a look at their user #'s on Alexa---- that is the place where the engineering audience is migrating to.You do have to register but the amount of information at your fingertips is mind boggling. They really are the Engineering Web

     
  • At September 23, 2004 8:00 PM, Anonymous said…

    [--- that is the place where the engineering audience is migrating to.You do have to register but the amount of information at your fingertips is mind boggling. They really are the Engineering Web]

    i have to disagree, i use the internet for most of my sourcing, and while i do find goos results on globalspec, i tend to have better responses with thomasnet. I feel that they have more information and advanced search capabilities. ANyways i was impressed

     
  • At July 21, 2005 3:33 PM, Anonymous said…

    They've improved a lot, but some core issues still hobble their service. See their press release about why this site is so great (it reads like a VerticalNet promo from 1999).

    Speaking of VerticalNet - have you visited their sites recently - www.vertmarkets.com - they were purchased from a private company in 2002- VerticalNet as you know it was defunked and now runs a Supply Chain Company- VertMarkets has been making advancements in some important verticals - www.RFGLOBALNET.com www.PharmaceuticalONline.com www.wateronline.com - seems like engineers are making their ways to more verticaly specific sites then sites where a search for filters can be confused with filtration for electronics or water or coffee for that matter - ever try searching for potato chips on www.reedlink.com - pretty worthless -too much confusion for ThomasNet GlobalSpec and ReedLink trying to be too big and cover too many industries horizontally - not doing anyone industry very well...

     
  • At September 15, 2005 11:09 AM, Anonymous said…

    Why would you search for potato chips on ReedLink (or Thomas or Global Spec for that matter)? If you are hungry, go to 7-11. These are vertical search sites and the fact that you can't find good results for potato chips means they are doing what they set out to do.

     
  • At September 26, 2005 8:49 AM, Anonymous said…

    Actually if you had bothered to type a search for potato chips into www.reedlink.com you would have come up with search results for companies that sell potato chips - Reedlink is just another search engine - but you probably can find less information on reedlink then if you went to a search engine - trying to be too many things in to many industries

     
  • At February 17, 2006 12:55 PM, Anonymous said…

    Its crazy that you can search for potato chips on there - talk about non industry specific - Did you see Google drop last week - but for some reason it was back up to $360+ today - totally over valued

     
  • At August 29, 2006 12:31 PM, IndustryDave said…

    ReedLink.com is now rebranded as FindGuru.com. Improvements include an industry specific blog, the ability to load your own content, and product comment functionality.

     
  • At June 30, 2007 4:02 PM, Anonymous said…

    IF you konw chinese,you can search in
    www.baidu.com

    skype:black-pottery
    mail:blackpottery@163.com

     

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